When will railroad tracks get repaired here? Why so many water alerts? What type of clay is causing the turbidity problem? Could the city directly pipe the clear streams nearby? • Asheville Watchdog
Today’s round of questions, my smart-aleck replies and the real answers:
Question: Will Norfolk & Southern repair their tracks? It’s such a sleepy industry, they may not be able to get a return on the investment. Rails to trails?
My answer: When it comes to repairs, I feel like Norfolk Southern is saying more, “I think I can, I think I can,” rather than, “Yeah, these tracks are toast. Time for rails to trails.”
Real answer: Norfolk Southern owns a lot of our tracks around here. Company spokesperson Heather L. Garcia provided the company’s update on Helene recovery.
“The short version is our track in and out of Asheville is expected to be out for at least another three months,” Garcia said.
The track is still used quite a bit, although Norfolk Southern does consider it “secondary” track, not part of its mainline operations.
“Essentially, that means most of the traffic on that track is local (as opposed to through traffic), serving customers that are shipping goods out or bringing products in,” Garcia said. “Coal, forest and consumer categories make up more than half of the traffic in that area normally.”
In that update, Norfolk Southern said all of its “core routes were open within 72 hours of the hurricane making landfall.” The railroad has 19,500 miles of track in 22 states, mostly in the East.
Norfolk Southern said it has discovered 21,500 feet of railroad track that washed out from Tropical Storm Helene, and more than 50,000 feet of track damaged by scouring. Some of the worst damage was in the Asheville area. // Photo provided by Norfolk Southern.
“Norfolk Southern’s Engineering team cleared over 15,000 trees, repaired multiple washouts and over 50 damaged slide fences, deployed 400-plus generators, and safely operated in more than 1,000 locations without commercial power,” the update stated.
The update notes that the Asheville region was hard hit.
“In the hardest hit areas, along Norfolk Southern’s AS Line, which runs from Salisbury, N.C to Morristown, Tenn., crossing the Eastern Continental Divide through the Blue Ridge Mountains and Asheville, N.C., initial damage assessments discovered 21,500 feet of track washed out, more than 50,000 feet of track damaged by scour, over 15,000 feet of fill failures and slides, and multiple bridges damaged,” Norfolk Southern stated. “Engineering teams reopened the AS Line between Salisbury, N.C. and Old Fort, N.C., as well as between Newport, Tennessee and Morristown, Tennessee, Oct. 9, working, in some cases, without access to public roadways.”
Because of the remoteness and mountain topography, along with storm flooding, “Norfolk Southern teams have had difficulty assessing damage along portions of the line around Asheville and over Black Mountain, where much track has been completely destroyed,” the company stated.
This map shows the status of the Norfolk Southern AS Line, which runs from Morristown, Tennessee, to Salisbury, North Carolina. “Initial projections estimate Norfolk Southern’s line between Asheville and Newport will reopen by late January 2025,” according to the company’s update. // Credit: Norfolk Southern
“Initial projections estimate Norfolk Southern’s line between Asheville and Newport will reopen by late January 2025,” the update continued. “Evaluations of the track between Asheville and Old Fort are ongoing.”
Blue Ridge Southern Railway, under its parent company, Watco, also operates tracks in our area, running from East Flat Rock up to Asheville, and then west to Dillsboro. The “WAMX” locomotives you often see around here, which stand for Webb Asset Management, are part of the Blue Ridge Southern Railroad.
The Blue Ridge Southern line consists of 87.83 miles of track, according to Watco spokesperson Tracie VanBecelaere.
“The Blue Ridge Southern Railroad is working to restore the line to resume service to our customers,” VanBecelaere said via email. “We do not have an exact timeline right now on when work will be completed, but hopefully in a similar timeframe as Norfolk Southern.”
As far as any potential transitioning of tracks to pedestrian/cycling trails, that’s not happening.
“There is no discussion of trail projects resulting from the storm,” VanBecelaere said.
Question: I appreciate the city being responsive during this crisis, but do they really need to send out so many alerts about the water? It’s starting to drive me crazy.
My answer: Alert! Alert! Alert! An Alert answer is coming. Hey, I just wanted to warn you.
Real answer: Asheville City Manager Debra Campbell broached this subject at the Oct. 21 daily Helene briefing. In short, the city must issue these notices.
“We’ve heard a lot, and a lot of it were mostly complaints that there’s been some frustration with the daily AVL alert messages going out to Asheville water customers as we continue to bring the entire water system back online,” Campbell said. “These daily boil water notices are required by the Environmental Protection Agency.”
“As long as we are under a boil water notice, we appreciate your understanding of the necessity of these critical messages,” Campbell continued. “These alerts are sent in both English and Spanish to ensure we reach as many members of our community as possible.”
Asheville has restored water to nearly all its customers, but the water is not filtered, and it’s heavily chlorinated and can have a light brown appearance. This stems from stubborn suspended clay particles remaining in the city’s main drinking water source, North Fork Reservoir in Black Mountain.
Question: (Note: Two readers asked about the turbidity issue at North Fork Reservoir. I’m summarizing their questions here). One guy said he filtered the city water through three towels, and it still came through with a brownish color, and yet there seemed to be no residue left behind on the towels. This indicated to him that the particles in question are incredibly fine. Along those lines, another guy, with experience in pottery, asked if the type of clay in the reservoir might be something called “terra sigillata.” Apparently, this is a fine clay used to create a smooth, lustrous coating on ceramic pieces, according to Google. His point is that it is a very, very fine clay and stays in suspension for a long time. He wanted more specifics on the suspended clay the city is dealing with, other than just generic clay. Also, he asked if the curtains to be installed are effective on very fine clay particles. And, how small a particle can they filter?
My answer: I’ve yet to hear the city’s water spokesperson, Clay Chandler, acknowledge the awkwardness of being named “Clay” these days, but I suspect that’s coming. I also suspect he’s already had some people blame him personally for muddying the waters.
Real answer: Chandler said the particles in North Fork that are causing the murkiness, technically called turbidity, are “very fine clay particles and generally require a coagulant to remove.
Normally clear, the North Fork Reservoir now suffers from murkiness, otherwise known as turbidity. // Photo provided by the City of Asheville
“A towel is porous, with those pores being large enough that they would most likely be unable to trap or contain those particular particles,” Chandler said via email. “Our personnel have not identified the specific clay particle, and use that term generically to describe many variations.”
They clearly have looked at this clay up close and personal, though.
“We do know that these particles are small, flat, plate-like structures, with a negative charge, and they act as opposing magnets, which keeps them suspended in the reservoir,” Chandler said.
Regarding the turbidity curtains, which the city is installing this week, they “are impervious in areas, but are mostly intended to create a stilling zone to allow flocculation and mass building, which we hope will help these particles sink,” Chandler said.
Flocculation is a fancy way to describe a process that causes small particles in a liquid to clump together into larger clusters called flocs. Hey, that’s what Google AI tells me.
Floc away, Asheville!
Question: As the feeder streams to North Fork have cleared, has the city explored the possibility, maybe in conjunction with the Corps of Engineers, of directly piping the stream water into the treatment facility, essentially bypassing the lake? Is this possible? Too complex?
My answer: At this point, I think the city has explored every possible solution to restoring potable water to its citizens, including buying gigantic tanks of hydrogen and oxygen and leaving them in a room overnight, hoping some magic occurs.
Real answer: This would probably be too complicated to seriously consider.
“Lot of problems to solve,” Chandler said. “None of those feeder streams are very deep, so you’d run into the capacity issue there, too. Also, they’re all in the middle of thick forest, and getting what would likely require a few miles of connected pipe laid and stabilized would take a significant amount of time.”
Also, the terrain provides no good place to set up dozens of pumps and other equipment that would be required to make this work.
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www.thecentersquare.com – By Alan Wooten | The Center Square – (The Center Square – ) 2025-03-28 12:56:00
(The Center Square) – Persistent dry and windy conditions, along with downed trees from Hurricane Helene six months ago, remain troublesome for wildfires in the Carolinas.
The Table Rock Fire, largest of several, has crossed from Pickens County in South Carolina to Transylvania County in North Carolina.
In an update from the South Carolina Forestry Commission on Thursday evening, the Tabe Rock fire grew significantly during the day and the Persimmon Ridge fire only modestly. The Table Rock fire is estimated 8,679 acres and the Persimmon Ridge fire 1,992 acres.
Three counties are home to four other significant size fires in the Tarheel State: Deep Woods and Black Cove in Polk County, Alarka in Swain County, and Rattlesnake Branch in Haywood County.
“Excessive storm debris and timber damage from Hurricane Helene has created many challenges for firefighting efforts,” a release from the North Carolina Forest Service said Friday morning. “One factor is the loss of tree canopy. More ground cover is receiving direct sunlight, accelerating the rate in which fuels dry out.”
The Black Cove fire that originated March 19 is 3,288 acres in size and 17% contained, the Forest Service says. It is approximately 2 miles northeast of Saluda in the Green River Gorge.
The Deep Woods fire, also a March 19 start, is 3,373 acres in size and 30% contained, the Forest Service says. It is about 5 miles northwest of Columbus in the Green River Gorge and the adjacent Holbert Cove community.
The Fish Hook fire that began March 20 is 199 acres in size and 95% contained, the Forest Service says. This fire is about 5 miles northwest of Mill Spring near Lake Adger.
Other fires of size are burning near Sylva and Leicester.
Burning bans are in effect throughout North and South Carolina.
SUMMARY: A wildfire in Western North Carolina has become the highest priority in the U.S. The Black Cove Complex fire near Saluda has burned over 6,500 acres, with over 500 firefighters working to contain it. Authorities warn residents in mountain communities, like Buncombe County, to prepare evacuation bags in case orders are issued. The fire has triggered statewide concerns, with varying levels of fire danger across the state. A statewide burn ban is in effect, and officials are hopeful that rain expected this weekend will help control the blaze. Aircraft are being used to drop water and fire retardant to assist firefighting efforts.
More firefighters are arriving in Western North Carolina now that the Fire Service says a fire burning there is now the highest priority in the U.S.
SUMMARY: In late March 1963, Alfred Hitchcock’s thriller *The Birds* premiered, and in honor of its anniversary, Scott Mason revisits Elm City’s own bird phenomenon. Every afternoon, flocks of hundreds of thousands of starlings and blackbirds gather, creating a stunning, synchronized spectacle. The birds swarm the same fields at the same time, a behavior observed for over 20 years. Local residents are captivated by the sight, though some remain curious about the birds’ nature. Experts believe the birds flock for food and protection. This “bird ballet” continues to awe those lucky enough to witness it each day.
It was around this time in March 1963 when the movie “The Birds” premiered. The Tar Heel Traveler revisits Elm City’s very own thrilling version of the birds.
