When will railroad tracks get repaired here? Why so many water alerts? What type of clay is causing the turbidity problem? Could the city directly pipe the clear streams nearby? • Asheville Watchdog
Today’s round of questions, my smart-aleck replies and the real answers:
Question: Will Norfolk & Southern repair their tracks? It’s such a sleepy industry, they may not be able to get a return on the investment. Rails to trails?
My answer: When it comes to repairs, I feel like Norfolk Southern is saying more, “I think I can, I think I can,” rather than, “Yeah, these tracks are toast. Time for rails to trails.”
Real answer: Norfolk Southern owns a lot of our tracks around here. Company spokesperson Heather L. Garcia provided the company’s update on Helene recovery.
“The short version is our track in and out of Asheville is expected to be out for at least another three months,” Garcia said.
The track is still used quite a bit, although Norfolk Southern does consider it “secondary” track, not part of its mainline operations.
“Essentially, that means most of the traffic on that track is local (as opposed to through traffic), serving customers that are shipping goods out or bringing products in,” Garcia said. “Coal, forest and consumer categories make up more than half of the traffic in that area normally.”
In that update, Norfolk Southern said all of its “core routes were open within 72 hours of the hurricane making landfall.” The railroad has 19,500 miles of track in 22 states, mostly in the East.
Norfolk Southern said it has discovered 21,500 feet of railroad track that washed out from Tropical Storm Helene, and more than 50,000 feet of track damaged by scouring. Some of the worst damage was in the Asheville area. // Photo provided by Norfolk Southern.
“Norfolk Southern’s Engineering team cleared over 15,000 trees, repaired multiple washouts and over 50 damaged slide fences, deployed 400-plus generators, and safely operated in more than 1,000 locations without commercial power,” the update stated.
The update notes that the Asheville region was hard hit.
“In the hardest hit areas, along Norfolk Southern’s AS Line, which runs from Salisbury, N.C to Morristown, Tenn., crossing the Eastern Continental Divide through the Blue Ridge Mountains and Asheville, N.C., initial damage assessments discovered 21,500 feet of track washed out, more than 50,000 feet of track damaged by scour, over 15,000 feet of fill failures and slides, and multiple bridges damaged,” Norfolk Southern stated. “Engineering teams reopened the AS Line between Salisbury, N.C. and Old Fort, N.C., as well as between Newport, Tennessee and Morristown, Tennessee, Oct. 9, working, in some cases, without access to public roadways.”
Because of the remoteness and mountain topography, along with storm flooding, “Norfolk Southern teams have had difficulty assessing damage along portions of the line around Asheville and over Black Mountain, where much track has been completely destroyed,” the company stated.
This map shows the status of the Norfolk Southern AS Line, which runs from Morristown, Tennessee, to Salisbury, North Carolina. “Initial projections estimate Norfolk Southern’s line between Asheville and Newport will reopen by late January 2025,” according to the company’s update. // Credit: Norfolk Southern
“Initial projections estimate Norfolk Southern’s line between Asheville and Newport will reopen by late January 2025,” the update continued. “Evaluations of the track between Asheville and Old Fort are ongoing.”
Blue Ridge Southern Railway, under its parent company, Watco, also operates tracks in our area, running from East Flat Rock up to Asheville, and then west to Dillsboro. The “WAMX” locomotives you often see around here, which stand for Webb Asset Management, are part of the Blue Ridge Southern Railroad.
The Blue Ridge Southern line consists of 87.83 miles of track, according to Watco spokesperson Tracie VanBecelaere.
“The Blue Ridge Southern Railroad is working to restore the line to resume service to our customers,” VanBecelaere said via email. “We do not have an exact timeline right now on when work will be completed, but hopefully in a similar timeframe as Norfolk Southern.”
As far as any potential transitioning of tracks to pedestrian/cycling trails, that’s not happening.
“There is no discussion of trail projects resulting from the storm,” VanBecelaere said.
Question: I appreciate the city being responsive during this crisis, but do they really need to send out so many alerts about the water? It’s starting to drive me crazy.
My answer: Alert! Alert! Alert! An Alert answer is coming. Hey, I just wanted to warn you.
Real answer: Asheville City Manager Debra Campbell broached this subject at the Oct. 21 daily Helene briefing. In short, the city must issue these notices.
“We’ve heard a lot, and a lot of it were mostly complaints that there’s been some frustration with the daily AVL alert messages going out to Asheville water customers as we continue to bring the entire water system back online,” Campbell said. “These daily boil water notices are required by the Environmental Protection Agency.”
“As long as we are under a boil water notice, we appreciate your understanding of the necessity of these critical messages,” Campbell continued. “These alerts are sent in both English and Spanish to ensure we reach as many members of our community as possible.”
Asheville has restored water to nearly all its customers, but the water is not filtered, and it’s heavily chlorinated and can have a light brown appearance. This stems from stubborn suspended clay particles remaining in the city’s main drinking water source, North Fork Reservoir in Black Mountain.
Question: (Note: Two readers asked about the turbidity issue at North Fork Reservoir. I’m summarizing their questions here). One guy said he filtered the city water through three towels, and it still came through with a brownish color, and yet there seemed to be no residue left behind on the towels. This indicated to him that the particles in question are incredibly fine. Along those lines, another guy, with experience in pottery, asked if the type of clay in the reservoir might be something called “terra sigillata.” Apparently, this is a fine clay used to create a smooth, lustrous coating on ceramic pieces, according to Google. His point is that it is a very, very fine clay and stays in suspension for a long time. He wanted more specifics on the suspended clay the city is dealing with, other than just generic clay. Also, he asked if the curtains to be installed are effective on very fine clay particles. And, how small a particle can they filter?
My answer: I’ve yet to hear the city’s water spokesperson, Clay Chandler, acknowledge the awkwardness of being named “Clay” these days, but I suspect that’s coming. I also suspect he’s already had some people blame him personally for muddying the waters.
Real answer: Chandler said the particles in North Fork that are causing the murkiness, technically called turbidity, are “very fine clay particles and generally require a coagulant to remove.
Normally clear, the North Fork Reservoir now suffers from murkiness, otherwise known as turbidity. // Photo provided by the City of Asheville
“A towel is porous, with those pores being large enough that they would most likely be unable to trap or contain those particular particles,” Chandler said via email. “Our personnel have not identified the specific clay particle, and use that term generically to describe many variations.”
They clearly have looked at this clay up close and personal, though.
“We do know that these particles are small, flat, plate-like structures, with a negative charge, and they act as opposing magnets, which keeps them suspended in the reservoir,” Chandler said.
Regarding the turbidity curtains, which the city is installing this week, they “are impervious in areas, but are mostly intended to create a stilling zone to allow flocculation and mass building, which we hope will help these particles sink,” Chandler said.
Flocculation is a fancy way to describe a process that causes small particles in a liquid to clump together into larger clusters called flocs. Hey, that’s what Google AI tells me.
Floc away, Asheville!
Question: As the feeder streams to North Fork have cleared, has the city explored the possibility, maybe in conjunction with the Corps of Engineers, of directly piping the stream water into the treatment facility, essentially bypassing the lake? Is this possible? Too complex?
My answer: At this point, I think the city has explored every possible solution to restoring potable water to its citizens, including buying gigantic tanks of hydrogen and oxygen and leaving them in a room overnight, hoping some magic occurs.
Real answer: This would probably be too complicated to seriously consider.
“Lot of problems to solve,” Chandler said. “None of those feeder streams are very deep, so you’d run into the capacity issue there, too. Also, they’re all in the middle of thick forest, and getting what would likely require a few miles of connected pipe laid and stabilized would take a significant amount of time.”
Also, the terrain provides no good place to set up dozens of pumps and other equipment that would be required to make this work.
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www.thecentersquare.com – By Alan Wooten | The Center Square – (The Center Square – ) 2025-04-01 13:32:00
(The Center Square) – Directions on curriculum measured age appropriate and access in public libraries to materials considered harmful to minors are in a proposal at the North Carolina House of Representatives.
Parental Rights for Curriculum and Books, also known as House Bill 595, adds to state law a section for age-appropriate instruction for students; a human growth and development program for fourth and fifth graders; and says reproductive health and safety education shall not happen before seventh grade.
Rep. John A. Torbett, R-Gaston
NCLeg.gov
The bill authored by Rep. John Torbett, R-Gaston, and filed Monday additionally has sections on instructional materials and clarification of “defenses for material harmful to minors.” Public library access for minors is in a fourth section.
Gender identity instruction, a buzzword of recent election cycles, is prohibited prior to students entering the fifth grade. The proposal extends that to prior to the entering seventh grade.
The bill would require parental consent to learn about some elements associated with sex education – infections, contraception, assault and human trafficking.
State law allows schools the option to adopt local policies on parental consent for the reproductive health education.
www.thecentersquare.com – By Alan Wooten | The Center Square – (The Center Square – ) 2025-03-31 16:37:00
(The Center Square) – Judicial warfare is eroding the confidence in Americans’ justice system leaving a blight on justice itself, says a North Carolina congresswoman who leads the Rules Committee in the U.S. House of Representatives.
Rep. Virginia Foxx, R-N.C, is speaking out against judges blocking the president’s decisions as granted in the Constitution ahead of a Tuesday congressional hearing.
“As of late, we have certainly seen a slew of rulings by rogue judges that surpass their own constitutional authority,” she said in a post to social media Monday afternoon. “This is judicial warfare in the flesh. If it is not remedied in a commonsense and expeditious fashion, these exercises in partisanship will do further irreparable damage to the nation and to the confidence of Americans in our justice system.”
More than a dozen orders from President Donald Trump – more than in the entire time Joe Biden, Barack Obama and George W. Bush served as presidents – have been thwarted or attempted to be blocked. Among the judges in the spotlight is U.S. District Judge James Boasberg, a pivotal figure in deportation of people accused of being in gangs in addition to just being named to preside in a case involving military operations and a messaging app.
Boasberg, appointed by Bush to the Superior Court of the District of Columbia in 2002, was nominated to the federal bench by Obama and confirmed in the Senate 96-0 in 2012.
Boasberg on Wednesday issued and on Friday extended a temporary restraining order that prevents Trump from using the Alien Enemies Act to deport people believed to be part of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua. A hearing, Judicial Overreach and Constitutional Limits on the Federal Courts, is at 10 a.m. Tuesday to be conducted jointly by the Subcommittee on Courts, Intellectual Property, Artificial Intelligence and the Internet, and the Subcommittee on the Constitution and Limited Government from within the Judiciar Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives.
California Republican Darrell Issa is chairman of the former committee, Texas’ Chip Roy the latter. North Carolina Democrat Deborah Ross is a minority member of the former; North Carolina Republican Mark Harris is a majority member of the latter.
Witnesses scheduled include former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Cindy Romero, a victim of criminal activity believed perpetrated by Tren de Aragua in Aurora, Colo. Also on the invite list are witnesses from the Edwin Meese III Center for Legal and Judicial Studies at the Heritage Foundation.
Other federal judges drawing fire from supporters of the president include Biden appointees Amir Ali, Loren AliKhan, Deborah Boardman, Angel Kelley and Brendan Hurson; Obama appointees Paul Engelmayer, Amy Berman Jackson, John McConnell and Leo Sorokin; Bush appointee Joseph Laplante; Bill Clinton appointee William Alsup; and Ronald Reagan appointees John Coughenhour and Royce Lamberth.
“Without question,” Foxx said, “exceeding constitutional mandates as a matter of judicial philosophy does nothing more than blight justice itself.”
www.thecentersquare.com – By Alan Wooten | The Center Square – (The Center Square – ) 2025-03-31 15:21:00
(The Center Square) – Wildfires continued to burn Monday in the Carolinas, though a sign of optimism arose with a burning ban lifted in 41 South Carolina counties and measured rainfall in both states.
Largest of the fires is Table Rock in Pickens and Greenville counties of South Carolina. The Black Cove fire is burning in North Carolina’s Polk and Henderson counties, the Rattlesnake fire is burning Haywood County, and the Alarka 5 fire is in Swain County.
South Carolina’s Horry County at the Atlantic Ocean and North Carolina border, and the northwestern counties of Spartanburg, Greenville, Pickens and Oconee remain under a burning ban. In North Carolina, all 100 counties have a ban in effect.
The Table Rock fire size is about 13,191 acres in South Carolina and 574 in North Carolina, the Forestry Commission of the former said. Containment is about 30%.
The Persimmon Ridge fire is 2,078 acres in size with 64% containment. Rain Sunday into Monday measured nearly 1 inch.
The Covington Drive Fire in Myrtle Beach is about 85% contained and in mop-up and strengthened firebreaks stage.
In North Carolina, the Black Cove complex of fires are 7,672 acres in size. It includes the Black Cove (3,502 acres, 36% contained), Deep Woods (3,971 acres, 32% contained) and Fish Hook (199 acres, 100% contained) fires. Rainfall overnight into Monday helped the battle.
