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Daughter’s six-week search for missing parents marked by miscommunication, false sightings, DNA samples • Asheville Watchdog
Asheville Watchdog is bringing you the stories behind the staggering loss of life from Helene, the children, parents, grandparents, multiple generations of a single family, all gone in one of the worst natural disasters to hit the mountains of western North Carolina. This is the ninth installment.
The sorrow and torment are sadly familiar by now: A daughter desperately searching for her missing parents only to discover they were never coming back.
Nola and Robert Ramsuer died when floodwaters overtook their Swannanoa riverside trailer in Tropical Storm Helene.
But for daughter Shalana Jordan, getting to that agonizing answer took six weeks and included multiple searches through mud-caked debris, repeated calls to aid agencies, false sightings from well-meaning strangers, and a bureaucratic labyrinth that often appeared inept at tracking the missing and the dead.
Read previous installments of The Lives We Lost.
The Ramsuers, both 70, were among the 43 officially lost in Buncombe County to the Sept. 27 storm.
For loved ones left behind, navigating a chaotic disaster even with help pouring in from across the U.S. can be frustratingly slow and painful.
For Jordan, 40, of Winston Salem, it meant days of scouring social media posts and helicopter footage for clues about her parents, sending friends and relatives to shelters to see if they were there, providing DNA samples not once but twice, and waiting six weeks for confirmation that remains found within 10 days of the storm were those of her mother and father.
Jordan, mother of two boys, Aiden, 8, and P.J., 9, had to juggle their school needs and her own chemotherapy for a genetic disorder while searching for answers.
Holding onto hope amid the wreckage
On the morning of the storm, Jordan texted with her mother as she usually did. Around 7:30 a.m., her mother reported the power had gone out.
“She said it, like, almost funny…‘It’ll come back on again later,’” Jordan said. “She stopped texting me around eight.”
Jordan assumed her mother had gone to work at her custodian’s job at the Black Mountain Neuro-Medical Treatment Center. Her father, a Vietnam War veteran who had been in declining health, still worked a couple of days a week in maintenance for Cracker Barrel.

When Jordan couldn’t reach them that night, she figured they’d gone to bed early. The next day, images of the destruction began appearing on social media.
“I messaged all my family in Asheville, thinking maybe they called one of them and were with them, or maybe they didn’t have their phones,” Jordan said.
Over the next hours and days, she searched a Swannanoa Facebook page, scanning photos of water pickup and donation sites for any signs of her parents. She watched hours of helicopter video footage and finally spotted her parents’ trailer park on Avery Wood Drive. Many of the trailers were gone.
Benjamin Larrabee, the Ramsuers’ next-door neighbor, recorded videos of the floodwater surging through the trailer park, sweeping up semi-tractor trailers and pushing them downstream past the Ramsuers’ home.
“Man, the whole trailer just moved,” Larrabee can be heard saying on one video as the water carried two semis past the Ramsuers. “Oh man, I hope these guys are going to be all right.”
One of the trucks eventually crashed into the Ramsuers’ trailer, ripping off one end, Jordan said.
Inside, she said, the water came up to the hood above the stove; a couch had been lifted off the floor and landed on the kitchen counter.
Neither of her parents could swim. But their home was still standing.
Jordan held out hope that maybe they made it to a shelter but determining that proved no easy task.
“During all of the first three weeks, we were checking shelters,” Jordan said. “There weren’t any lists of who was in the shelters. I had to physically send people there while I was in Winston Salem.”

Jordan posted about her parents on social media and gave interviews to national media in hopes of generating leads. Her phone pinged non-stop with hopeful, but false tips.
“People message you and comment on your posts all day, every day, from six in the morning until 2 a.m. at night,” she said. “‘I think I saw them here. I think I saw them there.’”
Jordan made the two-hour trip to her parents’ home four times, traipsing through mud and debris outside and inside the trailer with relatives and her fiance, Edward Jordan. “The mud was so thick in one of the back bedrooms, I was like, what if they’re in here in the mud, and we’re walking over them?” she said.
Her own health made searching difficult. Jordan’s legs and ankles swell, and chemo leaves her weak and in pain, she said.
At one point, she injured her ankle in the remnants of the trailer. “I fell through the floor,” Jordan said, “because it was getting soft from all the mud and the moisture.”
Jordan called every government and aid agency she could think of to report her parents missing.

“Nobody would take a description of them. No one would take photos. It was crazy,” she said. “I know that it was an unprecedented situation, but FEMA, [the American] Red Cross, like they do this every day. Disaster is their only job.”
An arduous wait for confirmation
Sixteen days after the storm, Jordan said she received a call from a Buncombe sheriff’s executive asking for a description of the clothes her parents were wearing.
Three days later, “I got a call from the medical examiner in Raleigh saying that they think they found my parents,” Jordan said.
She did not know then, but death certificates completed later showed her mother’s body had been found Oct. 4, and her father’s Oct. 7, more than a week earlier.
“We were hunting and wasting resources this whole time,” Jordan said, “if we could have been allowed to identify bodies, or if someone had been in charge of missing persons, to say we recovered X, Y and Z bodies.

“How many resources did I waste that could have been used helping someone else or finding someone else because we had tons of community help, people searching on foot, cadaver dogs, people shoveling out mud for us?”
Dr. Craig Nelson at the Office of Chief Medical Examiner in Raleigh told Jordan the bodies believed to be her parents still had to be transported to Raleigh for examination and confirmation, she said.
Around the same time, the Buncombe Sheriff’s Office had been in contact with Jordan and sent a Winston Salem police officer to her home to collect DNA samples to match them against the remains.
The same day, about 20 minutes later, Nelson called to arrange to collect her DNA. Jordan told him, “They already came, and he was like, ‘What are you talking about?’”
Nelson said he would look into it and called back to say the first sample was headed to a Buncombe County lab, and results would take three to six weeks, Jordan said.
The Raleigh medical examiner’s lab could match the sample faster, in about a week, but she would need to provide a second round of DNA, “so more officers came and got samples,” Jordan said.
In early November, Nelson delivered the results.
“He said, ‘I’m so sorry,’” Jordan said. “My parents remains’ broke down too much during this process, and they couldn’t even get anything from their DNA samples.”
More samples were collected from the remains, and the medical examiner’s office conducted another round of testing. “We had to wait another week,” Jordan said.
She said Nelson “went above and beyond” and kept her updated daily.
The medical examiner’s office did not respond to a request for comment by deadline.
On Nov. 12, more than six weeks after the storm and five weeks after her parents’ bodies had been found, Jordan received official confirmation of their deaths.
By then, the family had already held a memorial service. Jordan said she did not want to wait with unpredictable winter weather approaching.
And she said she knew in her heart her parents were gone, especially after the discovery of a plastic bag inside their trailer with her mother’s purse, her father’s wallet, debit cards and mementos. She thinks they were planning an escape.
Also inside the bag: her mother’s cell phone, the same one she’d been texting and calling for days.
“She didn’t even have her phone,” Jordan said. “We were all just texting no one.”
Memorial brings unexpected costs, tributes
The Ramsuers’ funeral and cremation costs totaled more than $3,000 and included a “transport fee” to drive their remains from Raleigh to a funeral home in Swannanoa, Jordan said. “It’s $3 a mile to transport a body,” she said.
Cracker Barrel, her father’s employer, catered the memorial service and paid a portion of the costs, she said. The Red Cross paid the transport fee and other expenses.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency declined to pay, she said, because her father was entitled to funeral benefits as a veteran, about $300. With community donations, Jordan said the family expects to be fully reimbursed for the funeral costs.
Jordan said she’s heard from many of her parents’ friends, neighbors and co-workers, “the only good thing out of all this,” she said. “Not a handful, not dozens, but hundreds of people.”
Robert Ramsuer, a Buncombe native, served in the U.S. Army. “He saw a lot of crazy stuff” in Vietnam and served two tours after the war, his daughter said.
She described him as a spitfire who always had a story to tell. He loved fishing and hunting.
“People messaged me saying, ‘Your dad taught me how to fish 40 years ago; your dad taught me martial arts 30 years ago,’” Jordan said.
Nola Ramsuer was “very soft spoken and sweet,” she said. She baked cakes for friends’ and coworkers’ birthdays and hosted Christmas for their extended family.

One former coworker told Jordan how he’d talked to her mother about the many medications he was taking for lupus, an autoimmune disorder Jordan also has. Her mother went online and researched alternatives “and sent him these printouts of holistic things he could try to be able to get off all the medication,” Jordan said.
‘Life is so fragile’
Jordan recently collected her parents’ ashes from the Penland Family Funeral Home in Swannanoa. She said she purchased two memorial boxes, each a size large accommodating the remains of a 300-pound person, more than enough for her 140-pound father and 110-pound mother.
But Jordan said a funeral home representative informed her that her mother had been found in the mud.
He said, “‘We tried to remove as much material from her as we could, but there still was a lot mixed in, so all of her doesn’t fit inside of the box,’” Jordan said.
She said she received two boxes with her mother’s remains.
Funeral home representatives did not respond to messages seeking comment.
Jordan said that while her father had been ill, she expected to have another 20 or 30 years with her mother, who came from a family in which women lived well into their 90s, one making it to 104.
“I thought I had more time,” Jordan posted on Facebook. “Life is so fragile and can be gone in an instant.”
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SUMMARY: A tragic crash on Clayton Boulevard resulted in the death of a 19-year-old, with driver Jay Guadalupe Moreno Neas, 48, facing DWI charges. Police report that Neas had a blood alcohol content of .17, over twice the legal limit. He ran a stoplight, striking the victim’s car. Charged with felony death by motor vehicle, DWI, and other offenses, Neas’s actions serve as a reminder of the dangers of drunk driving, which accounts for a significant number of traffic fatalities. In response, North Carolina has introduced House Bill 400, aiming to impose stricter penalties on impaired drivers. Neas is scheduled to return to court on April 3rd.

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Chuck Edwards made these claims at Thursday’s town hall. Asheville Watchdog checked them out. • Asheville Watchdog
Rep. Chuck Edwards made it less than a minute into his opening remarks Thursday night, at his first town hall since being re-elected last November, before the crowd drowned him out for the first time.
In that case, it was applause: As the Republican representing North Carolina’s 11th District referenced his colleagues’ recent reluctance to engage with their constituents, the 300 or so attendees packing A-B Tech’s Ferguson Auditorium made it clear they were happy to have him there.
But it was one of only a few cheers Edwards would get all night. A constituency angry over federal layoffs, international relations, and President Donald Trump’s trade war unleashed its frustration. Tidal waves of jeers were punctuated by individual entreaties for Edwards to hear them out, to criticize Trump or his right-hand billionaire Elon Musk, or to offer a word of compassion. (“Are you a human being?” one attendee yelled.)

Whenever one of the law enforcement officers lining the room opened an exterior door, the crowd gathered outside — a combination of those who planned to protest the event and those who couldn’t get in — unleashed a torrent of boos.
Edwards was visibly irritated at times, smirking at outbursts from the audience and chiding them for talking over him. But he stuck to the plan, facing the audience for about 90 minutes, including an hour of question-and-answer. He touted the work of Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency and the House’s Republican-led budget resolution. He dodged questions on Ukrainian refugees and whether he’d support raising or eliminating the maximum taxable income for Social Security.
Occasionally he broke with party leadership. He said he didn’t support the ideas, repeatedly floated by Trump, to annex Canada and Greenland. And he reminded the crowd that he was there against the advice of the National Republican Congressional Committee — “in spite of my colleagues in D.C. saying, ‘Chuck, you’re an idiot.’”
Asheville Watchdog looked deeper into some of the claims Edwards made Thursday. Here’s what we found:
Claim: Edwards disputed the premise of an audience member’s question about Trump’s lack of support for Ukraine.
“I believe the president is very supportive of Ukraine,” Edwards said. “I believe the president recognizes that (Russian President Vladimir) Putin is a murderous dictator. … I know that Vice President J.D. Vance suggested that if Putin not come to the table for a peace treaty, that he may be facing American soldiers.”
Context: In the two months since his inauguration, Trump has accused Ukraine of instigating its war with Russia and called the country’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, a dictator, false claims that echo Putin talking points.
A televised Oval Office meeting late last month exposed the rift between the American and Ukrainian administrations, as Trump and Vance berated Zelensky and threatened to abandon Ukraine. Zelensky was asked to leave the White House, and in the following days, CNN reported, Trump ordered a pause on military aid to Ukraine.

Putin and Trump have historically spoken of each other in admiring terms, though Trump has at times been critical of Russia’s role in the war with Ukraine. Vance did seem to threaten military action against Russia last month, saying the U.S. could use “military tools of leverage” if Putin refuses to agree to a peace deal. On Friday morning, Putin pushed off a proposal for a month-long ceasefire, saying he would need to set several conditions to move forward.
Claim: Asked about canceled and postponed meetings at the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention concerning vaccines, Edwards said he was “not aware of any meetings that were canceled.”
Context: Last month, the CDC abruptly postponed an advisory committee meeting on immunizations without setting a new date. New Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr, who has been a vocal vaccine skeptic for decades, has been a critic of the committee.
A few days later, the FDA canceled an advisory committee meeting on selecting the strains to be used in next season’s flu shot. The FDA issued its recommendations for flu shot composition this week without the independent input. Experts have said the cancellations raise serious concerns about transparency and scientific validity at agencies under Kennedy.
Claim: Edwards said there “have been no cuts to the staff of the VA.” As the audience booed — with some yelling out that Edwards was lying — he attributed the perception of cuts at the Department of Veterans Affairs to a “leaked memo looking at the efficiency of the VA.”
Context: There have been staff cuts at the VA under Trump: Last month, the department announced it had laid off more than 2,400 probationary employees in “non-mission critical positions” across two rounds of dismissals. Earlier this week, federal judges in two separate cases ordered the administration to temporarily reinstate employees who lost jobs in mass firings at the VA and other federal agencies.
Earlier this month, the Associated Press reported that an internal memo circulating at the VA called for a reorganization that would eliminate more than 80,000 jobs.

Claim: Edwards repeatedly rebuffed assertions that the House Republican budget plan calls for or would result in cuts to Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare.
“There’s nothing in that resolution that mentions the word Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security,” Edwards said. “There’s no intent from President Trump, nor from the current Congress, to do anything to disrupt payments for Medicare or Social Security.”
Context: Edwards was repeating what has become a common talking point for House Republicans this month: that their budget resolution contains no mention of cutting those programs. That’s true.
But the Congressional Budget Office (which Edwards roundly denounced Thursday) has said it would be impossible to impose the proposed cuts — $880 billion to programs under the Energy and Commerce Committee over the next decade — without digging into Medicare, Medicaid, or the Children’s Health Insurance Program. Republicans have explicitly ruled out cuts to Medicare, implicitly putting a larger target on Medicaid. Health policy experts have backed the CBO’s statement.
Musk, repeating debunked claims about tens of billions of dollars in waste and improper payments to dead people, has reiterated his plans to target Social Security benefits for cuts as recently as this week.

Claim: Asked about Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, Edwards responded with a prewritten list of cuts by the agency that he said he supported — and he labored through it, reading, sometimes inaudibly, as the audience voiced its displeasure.
Context: Edwards described several cuts in language that directly matches posts from DOGE’s X account. But some of them appear to lack context.
His mention of “a $532,000 grant that was awarded by (the National Institutes of Health) to use a mouse model to investigate the effects of cross-sex testosterone treatment” echoes language publicized by DOGE, but as Snopes.com reported, a grant matching that amount and description appears to have already been paid out in 2023, rather than being an ongoing cost.
Similarly, a “$1.7 million grant awarded by NIH for the China Health and Retirement longitudinal study at Peking University in Beijing” seems to refer to a long-term international survey, meant to collect data for studies on population aging, that the NIH has been funding almost every year since 2010, including during Trump’s first term. According to NIH records, it received a $1.7 million grant last year.
And Edwards repeated a claim that DOGE identified $300 million in Small Business Administration loans to borrowers older than 115 years in 2020 and 2021. But that claim appears to be tied to Musk’s assertions that tens of millions of dead people are receiving Social Security benefits. Those claims have been debunked and stem from confusion around a programming language used in Social Security’s record-keeping system, which sometimes defaults to erroneous dates for entries with missing or incomplete birthdates.
Claim: In response to a question on the Trump administration holding up funding that Congress had already approved, Edwards said this: “There is nothing in the Constitution that says every dollar that Congress sends the administration has to be spent.”
Context: The question of who has the power of purse has dominated Trump’s return to office. He has suspended trillions in federal spending and essentially shut down the United States Agency for International Development.
Article 1 of the Constitution decrees that Congress passes laws to spend or appropriate money. But there have been many battles about the powers of the legislative and executive branches over the years. During President Richard Nixon’s second term, his refusal to spend money on projects he didn’t like led to Congress passing the Impoundment Control Act in 1974 to prevent presidents from overriding Congress on appropriations.
Trump and Office of Management and Budget chief Russell Vought say the act is unconstitutional, a stance many scholars disagree with. Georgetown law professor Stephen Vladeck told NPR there is no good-faith argument to support Trump and Vought’s view. But he also noted that while the Impoundment Control Act generally prohibits presidents from halting funds, it does allow the president to tell Congress in some cases that he doesn’t want to spend appropriations. In those cases, under the law, Congress is to decide whether it wants to let the president impound the money.
In a 5-4 ruling earlier this month, the U.S. Supreme Court denied the administration’s request to block a lower court order to restart $2 billion in payments to USAID for work that has been already completed. It’s likely the high court will be weighing in on additional cases surrounding the constitutionality of Trump’s freezing of funds.
Asheville Watchdog is a nonprofit news team producing stories that matter to Asheville and Buncombe County. Jack Evans is an investigative reporter who previously worked at the Tampa Bay Times. You can reach him via email at jevans@avlwatchdog.org. Keith Campbell is The Watchdog’s managing editor. You can reach him via email at kcampbell@avlwatchdog.org. The Watchdog’s local reporting during this crisis is made possible by donations from the community. To show your support for this vital public service go to avlwatchdog.org/support-our-publication/.
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